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Postuar nga amoxil datë 13 Tetor 2005 - 05:09:
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Ka edhe shume gjera te tjera qe duhen thene, shume.
Por, nqs ti Amoxil do te kishe sy reale, qe ti shikoje gjerat nen driten e Krishtit, dhe jo te diellit, do te falenderoje Perendine qe Patriarkana e Konstandinopojes zgjodhi Anastasin si Kryepeshkop.
Njeri qe e ngjalli Kishen Orthodhokse te Shqiperise dhe jo e uzurpoi, sic thoni ju. Sepse eshte Kryq Sherbimi dhe je Fron Uzurpimi.
Më bëj pak të qartë sinodin e Patriarkanës së Konstadinopojës dhe nga është preardhja e këtij sinodi si edhe me çin ka të bëjë ky sinod????
Citim:
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Dhe dicka tjeter.
•Kisha eshte perjetesisht e ndare nga shteti. Shteti nuk ka asnje te drejte te nderhyje ne ceshtjet e Kishes. Dhe sa per dijeni.
•E di ti Orthodhoks se sa prifterinj Orthodhokse te huaj ka ne Shqiperi?
E di ti se sa prifterinj te huaj Katolike ka ne Shqiperi?
E di ti se sa pastore protestante, joshqiptare, ka ne Shqiperi?
E di ti se sa imame dhe hoxhallare arabe ka ne Shqiperi?
•Di ti ndonje rast ku te kerkohet largimi i ndonjerit prej tre te fundit, apo te shkruhen shkrime dhe fjale banale per ta, sic bejne shume njerez me Orthodhoksine dhe Kreun e Kishes Orthodhokse ne Shqiperi?
Nqs di me dergo dhe une do te te tregoj nje realitet.
Kisha na qënka e ndarë përjetësisht nga shteti???
Për cilën kish po bëhet fjalë vallë??????
•Kisha Ruse:
Russia
From the foundation of the Kievan Rus dynasty until the institution of bolshevism, Russia maintained very close ties between the officially recognized religion, the Russian Orthodox Church, and the government. These bonds became tightest under tsar Peter I ("Peter the Great"); in 1721, the office of Patriarch of Moscow was eliminated and replaced with a "Holy Governing Synod", presided over by an Imperial appointee and regulated by Imperial law. From that point until lately now the Russian Orthodox Church was explicitly a department of the Russian government.
Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church meets with Russian President.
His Holiness Patriarch Alexy II of Moscow and All Russia met with Russian President Vladimir Putin on September 30, 2005, at the presidential residence at Novo-Ogarevo.
In the course of their talk, the President touched upon the subject of the Kulikovo Battle anniversary celebrations. ‘I would like to thank you for your participation in the celebrations marking the 625th anniversary of the victory in the Kulikovo field. I know that the celebrations were held on a high level’, Vladimir Putin said.
His Holiness Patriarch Alexy noted that the Kulikovo Battle initiated the unification of separate Russian principalities into one state. Through common efforts the Russian people protected not only their land and faith, but also Europe’, the Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church emphasized.
They discussed among other things the efforts of the Church and state in overcoming the spread of drug-addiction in the country. In November 2005, a church public forum will be held in Moscow on National Sphere of Responsibility: Authorities, Business Community, Society Against Drug-addiction in Russia. ‘We call upon the authority, the business community and the entire society to take part in the struggle with this evil, which, unfortunately, is spreading more and more’, His Holiness said, describing dependency on drug as a ‘disease of the century’.
Pak më lartë duket se kush është kisha ruse nëse di të lexosh anglisht.
•Kisha sërbe:
The Serbian Orthodox Church: Friend or Foe in the New Yugoslavia?
As the new government of Yugoslavia takes shape, the separation between church and state is becoming increasingly controversial. Many in the government feel that the Serbian Orthodox Church will be a valuable ally in continuing peace. The new Yugoslavian Prime Minister Zoran Sizic has called for policies to keep Church and State closely intertwined and the new President, Vojislav Kostunica, is backing religious education in public institutions. Yugoslav citizens largely support these measures despite their diversity of beliefs (Serbia alone has 36 different religions). Ties between church and state also affect the finances of the new Republic. Last November, the Saint Sava Church received about 300,000 German Marks from the government. The government also paid for Kostunica's visit to a Serbian Orthodox Monastery. For those who see the close relationship between the Church and state as an important one, spending this relatively small amount of money seems reasonable.
However, in a country where many are going hungry, these expenditures are one reason opponents argue against Church involvement in state affairs. These people—for the most part liberals—fear that ties between the government and the Church might facilitate the development of a clerical state. The new government has reasons to be grateful to the Church. President Kostunica came to power only with the downfall of former President Slobodan Milosevic. Milosevic had a vision of a Greater Serbia cleansed of other ethnic groups, a dream that led to much violence and bloodshed. The Church played a large role in his downfall. However, the Church calling for Milosevic's resignation in June of 1999 was a reversal of their long time support of his policies. Some fear that the Church may be hoping to achieve Milosevic's Greater Serbia through the new government. If this is indeed the case, the Church represents a powerful threat to the country. The recent track record of the Church factors into fears that Church influence would not contribute to increasing democracy in Yugoslavia, and might lead to dangerous religious limits on freedoms. Many liberal Serbians fear that this democracy is already a tenuous one, even without the ties between government and church. These Serbians want to see the emergence of a civil state with clear separation between the powers of government and religion.
The ultimate role of the Church in Yugoslavia's new government has yet to be seen. For the time being, the government has said that religious education will be optional. Public opinion is largely behind the involvement of the Church in state affairs. While some liberal Serbians have reservations about Church involvement, many citizens feel that the Church's role is a positive one. Church and state continue to search for their roles in the future of Yugoslavia and hope that this future is one filled with peace.
Kostunica Embraces Church.
Article from The Institute for War and Peace on the President's relationship with the Church. The article quotes the Yugoslav scientist Radmila Radic saying, “Now the Church is trying to accomplish through Kostunica what it could not do with Milosevic”. The piece goes on to discuss growing concerns of liberal Serbs about Church involvement in the government.
•Kisha greke:
Greek Church plans scandal summit.
The allegations have shocked the Greek public.
Heads of the Greek Orthodox Church have been summoned to an emergency meeting after a string of scandalous allegations involving top clergymen.
The Church recently suspended a bishop over accusations of embezzlement.
Another priest is under arrest, charged with trading in illegal antiques and using his money and influence to affect the outcome of criminal trials.
Recent surveys have shown growing public support for looser ties between the powerful Church and state.
The Church has great influence in Greece - 97% of the population describes itself as Greek Orthodox and its authority is recognised by the constitution.
Të gjitha kto lajme jan marrë agjensia e lajmeve http://www.afp.com dhe të këshilloj ti lexosh dhe vetë se mbase nuk beson.
Citim:
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Amoxil, shiko realitetin, preke, ndjeje, shijoje, perqafoje dhe nuk do te zhgenjehesh. Te gjitha keto jane vrer qe del vetem per shkak te mosnjohjes. Beso dhe do te njohesh realitetin ashtu sic eshte.
Pergjigju nqs i permbahesh asaj qe te thashe ne fillim.
Unë realitetin e kam parë dhe nga më afër se sa mendon ti. Kam jetuar vetë 10 vjet në Greqi dhe pashë "dashurin" dhe "mikpritjen" dhe sa besojn te Zoti.
Prandaj dhe sduroj dot këmbë greku në Shqipëri.
E di ti si ka dal një fjalë e urtë popullore midis Shqiptarëve që jetojnë në greqi:
"greku më i mirë në botë është ai i varuri".
Me kaq po e mbyll se u mërzita dhe vetë me ato gjëra që po më vin në mënd.
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